Thread: Ten inch wheels turning toward Barber Motorcycle museum.

Originally Posted by vrodsss

Bummer Dude -- Your absolutely correct , Dr. ATV has a nice site , reasonable
shipping cost , but not very good if you have a question .

I can understand his beef about phone questions, They take time. However, He knew about my trips,and I spent a ton of money at his business. Seems he should have gave me a call. Pitster pro called,Firepower called when I had a question.

Not meaning to brag,but everywhere I rode I had people telling me that they were dragging their ct70s out the garage and were gonna fix them up. All due to my travels. CT70 parts are gonna get popular.

I would pay top dollar for good customer service (english speaking only).

Dr ATV has never done me wrong. Fast shipping and refunded shipping overcharge automatically.

Atleast they are willing to refund your purchase. If you don't like what you're getting, go elsewhere.

I'm very curious.....
What sponsors wanted you to show up 650 miles on a CT70? Why?

Originally Posted by hornetgod

Dr ATV has never done me wrong. Fast shipping and refunded shipping overcharge automatically.

Atleast they are willing to refund your purchase. If you don't like what you're getting, go elsewhere.

I'm very curious.....
What sponsors wanted you to show up 650 miles on a CT70? Why?

Not bitching about the shipping or refunds. That part they do well,although they would have less refunds to do if you could have an answer in real phone time. Makes a company look shady if you can't get them on the phone. Know what I mean?

Loctite and a producer someone was going to introduce me to if I made there.

Can empathize with you on the aborted trip. Few things in life suck like having to pull the plug, or having the plug pulled, at the last minute. FWIW, I wouldn't call Jack or his operation "shady". Can't ever recall tech advice being part of the Dr's deal and that's pretty well explained on his site. Where electrical conversion is part of a project, I would always source the wiring and schematic from the vendor supplying the engine. If the engine supplier cannot provide a schematic with the motor, I'd walk. As long as you can figure out where the various leads need to go, it's not difficult adapting a CT70 harness. CDI & coil wiring is self-contained, the OEM switch & harness only handle lighting/charging & kill switch function (which goes to a switched ground). With an unknown engine and no schematic, you're flying totally blind.

Have to ask, who sold you the engine and why no wiring info? You might try the Hooper website. They used to post 4 & 5-wire schematics for the Lifans they sold (sell?). Otherwise, you're either going to have to get the info from someone else who has successfully installed a z155 or get the motor started, without connecting any leads to the bike's main harness and break out the multimeter then work by process of elimination. On most of these motors, yellow is AC output, green & black are grounds, green w/red tr is the neutral light lead and white is the charging circuit +. The "trick", if you will, is figuring out the blue, red, brown, and other color-codes which vary by make. Sorry it's too late for this trip; hope at least some of it is useful when you return.

I have been doing business with Jack and Claudia for about 10 years...seems like I may be the only one that can get quick responses and live conversation. I used to spend 1000's of dollars a year with their operation back when I was single and childless, but things have changed and other vendors have popped up offering new and sometimes better things.

For the motor in question, you should check out planetminis...someone has explained in good detail how to adapt a 6v harness to a 12v setup. Purchased the harness from Trailbikes and then did some mods.

The easiest way, to be sure, is to get the harness from the manufacturer, even if it is only the harness to run the engine and then make a custom one to your liking. I personally don't like how the honda harnesses operate on the ct70's 12v's so I make my own or mod a china harness. I do a few things different because they are my bikes and I am allowed to.

For example, on my yellow CT70 with the GPX177V2 I have two rectifiers converting to 12vDC instead of regulated AC for lighting. I also have in my possession a 3-phase 150W sachs madass setup that I may put on in the future so I can power some serious HID lighting for night. Say what you want, but my Madass lights are brighter than my 2002 BMW r1150rs...so I want to duplicate that on my CT.

engine was already set up for 12 volt using the stock harness.Old stock harness worked fine till the short. I asked for a stock or stock replica harness. If I had a stock harness it would be plug and play. No monkey rigging.No wasting time on redneck enginering. I received something else. In an unmarked bag. No stock #'s, nothing to indicate what part they sent. Nothing to show them what part they sent.




This led me to believe that it will work. Of course fits in the frame and actually works are two different things.



FITS CT70'S WITH FRAME NUMBERS BETWEEN

CT70-2000000 AND CT70-2299999

OR

CT70H-2000000 AND CT70H-2299999


267R$33.33



Not calling them shady. Just unconcerned with customers.

Just bitching cause I can't talk to a real life person. To me, thats not the way to run a company. Something goes wrong you should be able to get somebody on a phone line to fix it. Thats how thing get done quickly. Thats how customers bond with the company and stay loyal. Waiting for e-mails take too much time.

As a customer who spent a buttload of cash there I feel I deserve a phone call. If only so they can say "sorry" . Which I might add was not in any e-mails they sent.

This has me curious. You ordered a wiring harness for a K0-K2 CT70 per the part number you gave from Dratv's site. These harnesses have a 4 lug connector. I have one here in front of me.
267R$33.33 <---- 4 lug connector.

The K3-K6 wiring harnesses also have a 4 lug connector at the motor if I'm not mistaken. Please take a picture of your 5 post connector that was on your bike that would plug into the stock 6V original coils/stator assembly.

I'm at a loss as to where a stock CT70 harness has a 5 blade connector or I'm off base on what you are talking about.

Originally Posted by MSZ

This has me curious. You ordered a wiring harness for a K0-K2 CT70 per the part number you gave from Dratv's site. These harnesses have a 4 lug connector. I have one here in front of me.
267R$33.33 <---- 4 lug connector.

The K3-K6 wiring harnesses also have a 4 lug connector at the motor if I'm not mistaken. Please take a picture of your 5 post connector that was on your bike that would plug into the stock 6V original coils/stator assembly.

I'm at a loss as to where a stock CT70 harness has a 5 blade connector or I'm off base on what you are talking about.

Connects to the cdi. 5 blade. which is looking like it may be separate part. Which is why you need a strong customer service dept.

That 5 prong connector has never been on a 6V CT70 from the factory, neither has a CDI until 1991-1994 CT70's.

It looks to me you were delivered exactly what you ordered. A K0-K2 reproduction wiring harness.

Keep the harness and merely custom rewire it to accomodate your needs. Just like the guy who did it before you.

Why did the wiring melt in the first place? Do you have a fuse somewhere in the system?

Originally Posted by MSZ

That 5 prong connector has never been on a 6V CT70 from the factory, neither has a CDI until 1991-1994 CT70's.

It looks to me you were delivered exactly what you ordered. A K0-K2 reproduction wiring harness.

Keep the harness and merely custom rewire it to accomodate your needs. Just like the guy who did it before you.

Why did the wiring melt in the first place? Do you have a fuse somewhere in the system?

Seat pan contacted the positive post. Fuse was too big allowed the grounds to burn.