Thread: Ten inch wheels turning toward Barber Motorcycle museum.

Yep...there is no such thing as a 5-prong harness for a CT70 until 1991 when they went CDI. To my knowledge, there is no harness available on the market that is plug and play for putting a 12v motor into a 6v system unless you are transferring the entire wiring, which includes headlight, signals, and handlebar controls.

To make this work, you really are going to be dicing and splicing a little I think. I've done the 6v to 12v motor conversions at least 15 times now, and every time I do it, I end up doing major rewiring.

From the dr's site, these are what you need to avoid splicing.

http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/dratv_2074_82008171
http://ep.yimg.com/ca/I/dratv_2074_133633626

and then you are going to have to splice the 5 lines out of the motor to the 5 lines here. Easy peasy..japanesey.

Oops ! Sorry to hear that Chuck,was lookin forward to some pics and stories.Next time....

The more I read, the more I side with the Doc. Looks like a custom set up. You got what you ordered. Atleast you get a refund. Why beat them up over your wiring issues.

Originally Posted by dennis d

Oops ! Sorry to hear that Chuck,was lookin forward to some pics and stories.Next time....

I second that ! It's always a blast listening to Chuck's adventures .

Originally Posted by hornetgod

The more I read, the more I side with the Doc. Looks like a custom set up. You got what you ordered. At least you get a refund. Why beat them up over your wiring issues.

Was only critizing the customer service aspect. I have figured out what was wrong. I did get the right part. It looked like the wrong one at first,could not verify it was right part due to no markings on packaging or part, nor could I get Doc on phone. Time was a issue and I was pissed off and mad that Doc would not even look at a pic via e-mail.

And that my friends is not how to treat customers in an recession.

Thanks to everbody here who fixed my problem and set me straight.

Doc could have done so in 2 minutes,but choose not to. Two minutes to appease an customer who spent over $1200 is not a lot to ask.

Sorry for the misunderstanding Dratv. I hope to do business with you in the future, but please open up to customer questions and answer them timely. The customers will thank you and stay loyal,spend even more $.

Dan's the man! I'm glad that Jarred gave you some tips and directed you to some wiring links to get you back on the road ...There has to be somewhere you can ride to. Good Luck.

I'll second what Dan & Jarred posted. Taking things a half-step further, don't expect a 12v CT70 harness to be plug & play either, even if the modular connectors fit. A wiring schematic is the only guarantee, if one could even use that term, that the leads are sequenced the same as your non-Honda stator output plug. 6v to 12v conversion only gets potentially complicated if you're converting OEM 6v turn signals in the process. For that, it's easier to start out with a complete 12v harness & switch unit. Sans turn signals, modifying an original harness or making your own, nearly from scratch, are the same amount of effort. Sourcing the correct modular plugs makes a cleaner job than bullet connectors; add a stub harness for the CDI and that's as close to plug & play as it gets with a non-stock 12v engine in a 6v bike.

Be aware that unless the CT70 wire harness you've sourced is an OEM part, that won't quite be plug & play... even in a bone-stock application. I've yet to come across a repop with soldered splices, they've all been lightly twisted & taped and can easily cause problems down the road if left that way. Considering that $35 is dirt cheap for a new repop harness, correctly color-coded and with the correct modular plugs, a bit of extra pre-installation prep is hardly gripe worthy.

Seems that electrical updates mostly all involve at least a few minutes with the soldering gun & shrink tube. What's a few properly-done splices to get everything properly fitted & reliable? You only have to do this once.